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		<title>Introducing mod_fads</title>
		<link>http://www.startupsaga.com/2013/introducing-mod_fads</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 04:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>raindog308</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Free Web Hosting]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[In the free hosting industry, people typically host based on one of these plans: Freemium &#8211; basic plans are free, better plans cost money Post to Host &#8211; users have to participate in forums to earn free hosting Forced Ads &#8211; hosting is free, but the provider&#8217;s ads are inserted into web pages For the [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the free hosting industry, people typically host based on one of these plans:</p>
<ul>
<li><span style="line-height: 13px;">Freemium &#8211; basic plans are free, better plans cost money</span></li>
<li>Post to Host &#8211; users have to participate in forums to earn free hosting</li>
<li>Forced Ads &#8211; hosting is free, but the provider&#8217;s ads are inserted into web pages</li>
</ul>
<p>For the forced-ads model, there are no good tools available at present.  mod_layout was commonly used, but it&#8217;s years out of date and may not even support Apache 2.  iAds was a popular product but only supports Apache 1.3.  There is also cPanel Forced Ads, but it&#8217;s a paid add-on and closed-source.</p>
<p>Hence my motivation to write <a href="http://www.modfads.org" target="_blank">mod_fads</a>, a free GPL&#8217;d forced-ad module for Apache 2.</p>
<p>I released the first public version today.  You can read all about it at <a href="http://www.modfads.org" target="_blank">modfads.org</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.modfads.org"><img class="aligncenter  wp-image-322" alt="startup_data_mf" src="http://www.startupsaga.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/startup_data_mf-1024x833.png" width="614" height="500" /></a></p>
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		<title>Free Web Hosting</title>
		<link>http://www.startupsaga.com/2013/free-web-hosting</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2013 04:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>raindog308</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Free Web Hosting]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been working furiously on my web hosting company &#8211; truly I have.  I think when I finally unveil it, people will understand why it took so long.  Sure, it&#8217;s cPanel shared and people can knock those out in an afternoon with ThemeForest but I did a custom web design, plus some other features I&#8217;m [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been working furiously on my web hosting company &#8211; truly I have.  I think when I finally unveil it, people will understand why it took so long.  Sure, it&#8217;s cPanel shared and people can knock those out in an afternoon with ThemeForest but I did a custom web design, plus some other features I&#8217;m rolling in at the start.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m also working on a somewhat different project.  Following a <a href="http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/9008/musing-about-a-free-hosting-company/p1" target="_blank">thread</a> on LET, I decided to give a free web hosting company a shot.</p>
<p>This will be a much faster implementation.  I&#8217;m not going to custom-skin cPanel, setup tutorials, setup WHMCS, etc.  But there are a couple ideas I&#8217;ve had to make it a little different and I hope better than the usual free web hosting.</p>
<p>KuJoe of <a href="http://www.serverdragon.com/" target="_blank">Server Dragon</a> (who has excellent VPSes, I might add &#8211; happy to give a free testimonial here and at <a href="http://www.vpsadvice.com/page/index.html" target="_blank">VPSadvice.com</a>) wrote a great book on how to run a free web hosting company.  I&#8217;ve designed mine to be super lean and mean &#8211; trying to keep monthly costs as absolutely low as possible.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to force ads, though that&#8217;s a popular strategy.  The reason is less about wanting to give customers a perfect experience and more about not ruining my Adsense account when some joker puts him something that violates Adsense TOS&#8230;and there are actually a surprising number of things that violate Adsense TOS.</p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m going to use Adsense on the forums, parked pages, error pages, etc. to start.  Then over time hopefully I&#8217;ll discover other monetization strategies.  I don&#8217;t need much per month to break even.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>NodePing Review</title>
		<link>http://www.startupsaga.com/2013/nodeping-review</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>raindog308</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[The Hosting Industry]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[One of the key responsibilities in running a web host (or really, systems administration in general) is knowing when something goes wrong.  You want to find out before customers do.  As a customer, I&#8217;d much rather have a problem, check the status page, and find someone is working on it than be the first to [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the key responsibilities in running a web host (or really, systems administration in general) is knowing when something goes wrong.  You want to find out before customers do.  As a customer, I&#8217;d much rather have a problem, check the status page, and find someone is working on it than be the first to open a ticket.</p>
<p>Two kinds of monitoring are needed:</p>
<ol>
<li><span style="line-height: 13px;">Internal &#8211; is MySQL up?  Are we running low on disk space?  Is some process chewing up all CPU?  Etc.</span></li>
<li>External &#8211; is the server up?  You won&#8217;t get an alert from your internal monitor if the server is down.  Also, some services are better monitored from the outside, like HTTP.  If apache is up but I&#8217;ve borked the firewall rules, then what really matters is that visitors can&#8217;t see web pages.</li>
</ol>
<p>For internal monitoring, I&#8217;m using Zabbix.  There are certainly others &#8211; Nagios is famous.  Munin, Cacti, Observium are more network/device reporting but can be made to report as well.</p>
<p>For external monitoring, I&#8217;ve been testing <a href="https://nodeping.com/" target="_blank">NodePing</a>.  They have all the features that the &#8220;big guys&#8221; (like Pingdom) have, but at a much lower cost.  The interface is easy to use and alerts are easy to setup.  I think you could get external monitoring setup in about 15 minutes using their service, and that includes the time to register.</p>
<p>You could roll your own monitoring but having professionals do it is a nice backstop.  Also, NodePing is a third party, so while your monitoring system could be down, you have the additional protection of &#8220;another set of eyes&#8221;.  &#8221;Yeah, but I have two Nagios monitoring boxes&#8221;.  What if someone messes up the config and you don&#8217;t notice?</p>
<p>I think third party external monitoring is really critical, so then it&#8217;s just a choice of different providers.  From what I&#8217;ve experienced so far, NodePing does a great job at a good price.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>Blocking WHMCS licensedebug</title>
		<link>http://www.startupsaga.com/2013/blocking-whmcs-licensedebug</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 20:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>raindog308</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Journal]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[So I was recently reminded that if you call any WHMCS .php with this added: ?licensedebug&#38;forceremote you get back some info that frankly I&#8217;m not wild about giving out. For example: Performing Remote Check: Array ( [licensekey] =&#62; MYLICENSEKEY [domain] =&#62; MYDOMAIN [ip] =&#62; MYIP [dir] =&#62; /home/SOMEUSER/public_html )  Raw Remote Response: Active MY_WHMCS_RESELLER 2 [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I was recently reminded that if you call any WHMCS .php with this added:</p>
<pre>?licensedebug&amp;forceremote</pre>
<p>you get back some info that frankly I&#8217;m not wild about giving out. For example:</p>
<pre>Performing Remote Check: Array ( [licensekey] =&gt; MYLICENSEKEY [domain] =&gt; MYDOMAIN [ip] 
=&gt; MYIP [dir] =&gt; /home/SOMEUSER/public_html ) 
Raw Remote Response: Active MY_WHMCS_RESELLER 2 Monthly Lease DATE_LEASED Monthly 
MYDOMAIN MY_IP /home/SOMEUSER/public_html SOME_HASH MY_WHCMS_VERSION
Remote Check Completed</pre>
<p>Some of that is obvious public &#8211; domain name, IP address. I don&#8217;t think WHMCS version is, and why give it out? Also, the absolute path on the server (/home/SOMEUSER) is needlessly exposed, as is the name of the company I leased WHMCS through, etc.</p>
<p>Nothing really OMG but when in doubt, why needlessly expose?</p>
<p>I looked and apparently the licensedebug is in ioncube&#8217;d code:</p>
<pre># grep -R licensedebug *
#</pre>
<p>So you can&#8217;t modify the php directly&#8230;which means an alternative is to create a mod_security rule that blocks that. In this case, here is what I put in:</p>
<pre># don't allow people to see whmcs sensitive configs
SecRule ARGS_GET_NAMES licensedebug phase:2,block,id:102</pre>
<p>This results in</p>
<pre>Not Acceptable</pre>
<pre>An appropriate representation of the requested resource /index.php could not be found on 
this server.</pre>
<p><b>Update:</b></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve learned of a more elegant solution. Edit configuration.php and add this:</p>
<pre>if(isset($_GET['licensedebug']))
 {
 unset($_GET['licensedebug']);
 exit('Contact support if you need to see this information');
 }
 if(isset($_GET['forceremote']))
 {
 unset($_GET['forceremote']);
 exit('Contact support if you need to see this information');
 }
 if(isset($_GET['revokelocal']))
 {
 unset($_GET['revokelocal']);
 exit('Contact support if you need to see this information');
 }
 ?&gt;</pre>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/8689/how-to-block-whmcs-licensedebug" target="_blank">LowEndTalk</a></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>What&#8217;s Needed?</title>
		<link>http://www.startupsaga.com/2013/whats-needed</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>raindog308</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[The Hosting Industry]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[I saw a thread on a forum in which someone asked &#8220;what&#8217;s necessary for a great hosting company&#8221;? After some reflection my answer, or at least part of it, is: humility. I&#8217;ve noticed that summer hosts (hosts that are started the beginning of summer break and vanish in months) and bad hosts invariably have braggard [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a thread on a forum in which someone asked &#8220;what&#8217;s necessary for a great hosting company&#8221;?</p>
<p>After some reflection my answer, or at least part of it, is: humility.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed that summer hosts (hosts that are started the beginning of summer break and vanish in months) and bad hosts invariably have braggard owners who barge into forum threads, swinging their egos, promising domination.  On the other hand, I can think of three or four really good hosts that are owned by guys who are pretty humble.  Not meek but they don&#8217;t boast or insult competition.  They just quietly keep serving traffic.</p>
<p>Hosting ultimately is a people business.  People businesses require some degree of humility to succeed.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>SSL for Virtual Hosts</title>
		<link>http://www.startupsaga.com/2013/ssl-for-virtual-hosts</link>
		<comments>http://www.startupsaga.com/2013/ssl-for-virtual-hosts#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 19:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>raindog308</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[The Hosting Industry]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone knows that if you want SSL for a web site, it has to be on a dedicated IP.  But&#8230;why? After all, we can have 1,000 non-SSL web sites on a single IP through virtual hosts.  So why not SSL? I was curious and did some reading.  Turns out the answer is that the SSL [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone knows that if you want SSL for a web site, it has to be on a dedicated IP.  But&#8230;why?</p>
<p>After all, we can have 1,000 non-SSL web sites on a single IP through virtual hosts.  So why not SSL?</p>
<p>I was curious and did some reading.  Turns out the answer is that the SSL protocol <a href="http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/ssl/ssl_faq.html#vhosts2" target="_blank">does a handshake before HTTP</a> &#8211; it&#8217;s a separate, encapsulating, pre-HTTP-begins protocol.</p>
<p>Quoting from that apache doc:</p>
<blockquote><p>The reason is that the SSL protocol is a separate layer which encapsulates the HTTP protocol. So the SSL session is a separate transaction, that takes place before the HTTP session has begun. The server receives an SSL request on IP address X and port Y (usually 443). Since the SSL request does not contain any Host: field, the server has no way to decide which SSL virtual host to use. Usually, it will just use the first one it finds, which matches the port and IP address specified.</p></blockquote>
<p>However&#8230;this is fixed in SSL v3 with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication" target="_blank">Server Name Indication</a>.  I wonder how many IPs could be released if Microsoft Internet Explorer 8 was finally retired.  The issue is that if this was implemented, all IE 8 (and earlier) would break, and there is no way to go back and fix those products.</p>
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		<title>Server Hosting Company Simulator!</title>
		<link>http://www.startupsaga.com/2013/server-hosting-company-simulator</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 07:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>raindog308</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160; &#160; &#160; This is hilarious.  Thanks to  Andrew Zadnik who originally posted it in a LowEndTalk thread.]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>This is hilarious.  Thanks to  <a href="http://www.andrezadnik.com" target="_blank">Andrew Zadnik</a> who originally posted it in a <a href="http://www.lowendtalk.com" target="_blank">LowEndTalk</a> thread.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.startupsaga.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/host_sim.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-295" alt="host_sim" src="http://www.startupsaga.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/host_sim.png" width="413" height="600" /></a></p>
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		<title>HostGator Security Panic!</title>
		<link>http://www.startupsaga.com/2013/hostgator-security-panic</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 08:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>raindog308</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I ran across this on the web: Is HostGator Shared Hosting Safe? Now first, you should know a couple things: I have no idea who WHSR is &#8211; this is just something I stumbled upon. There are many &#8220;Top 10 Web Hosts&#8221;, &#8220;Web Host Reviews&#8221;, etc. sites.  If you look at them, you&#8217;ll see that [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran across this on the web:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.webhostingsecretrevealed.com/featured-articles/is-hostgator-shared-hosting-safe-secret-revealed-from-hg-employee/" target="_blank">Is HostGator Shared Hosting Safe?</a></p>
<p>Now first, you should know a couple things:</p>
<ol>
<li><span style="line-height: 13px;">I have no idea who WHSR is &#8211; this is just something I stumbled upon.</span></li>
<li>There are many &#8220;Top 10 Web Hosts&#8221;, &#8220;Web Host Reviews&#8221;, etc. sites.  If you look at them, you&#8217;ll see that all of the links, etc are affiliate-coded.  They exist to draw in people who google for, say, &#8220;HostGator Review&#8221; and then click on an affiliate link to sign up.</li>
</ol>
<p>Are most of these sites legit?  No.</p>
<p>Are some of them legit?  Probably.  As a disclaimer, I do own a <a href="http://www.vpsadvice.com" target="_blank">VPS review site</a>.  However, in that case I do personally own (or have recently owned) VPSes on all providers listed for several years.  And while I do use affiliate codes for those providers who offer them, I also recommend providers who don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Back to this article.  Is the issue WHSR raises legit?  I don&#8217;t really think so.</p>
<p>System administrator access is always privilege-rich.  Unfortunately, cpanel/WHM does not offer granular access.  If someone has root on the box, they have root to every account, which is true of the underlying Linux OS as well.  Resellers can be restricted to the accounts they&#8217;ve resold, but ultimately, yes, there is one big &#8220;God&#8221; account for each cPanel.  While good security would be to set different root passwords on each cPanel server, how to determine those passwords (e.g., the password vault) is probably available to anyone.</p>
<p>I work in a Fortune 500 company by day and there are probably 30 people who could bring down the enterprise &#8211; destroy SAN volumes, erase databases, nuke servers, etc.  Of course, we&#8217;d lose our jobs and go to prison, but at some point you have to trust people to do their jobs.</p>
<p>A new admin at HostGator probably does know all the root passwords on his first day.  I knew the root passwords for several jobs on my first day, and they were bigger environments than HG.</p>
<p>There is one possible kernel of truth.  In the jobs I&#8217;ve had, there were background checks, reference checks, interviews, etc.  The &#8220;secret info&#8221; quoted on WHSR states that &#8220;HG will hire just about anybody for this position&#8221;.  I have no comment because I don&#8217;t know, but it would certainly be in HG&#8217;s best interests to do some background checks instead of just turning things over to anyone off the street.  I&#8217;m sure if you asked HG, they would say they do rigorous background checks, etc.  The only claim that they don&#8217;t is from an anonymous poster on a affiliate revenue generation site.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>Thinking Like a User</title>
		<link>http://www.startupsaga.com/2013/thinking-like-a-user</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>raindog308</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a friend who wrote a book.  She&#8217;s a counselor and her book is about depression. Her publisher offered to setup a web site for her, and charge her something ridiculous &#8211; $200 a month if I recall.  What would such a fabulous web site do!?  Pretty much just static pages where she could [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a friend who wrote a book.  She&#8217;s a counselor and her book is about depression.</p>
<p>Her publisher offered to setup a web site for her, and charge her something ridiculous &#8211; $200 a month if I recall.  What would such a fabulous web site do!?  Pretty much just static pages where she could place content.</p>
<p>I told her for $10/year she could register a domain and I could host her on my nascent hosting company as a beta user for free.  Because she&#8217;s a friend, I found a nice WP theme, setup the site, and populated it with her content, which was articles, blog posts, and some art.</p>
<p>I wrote her a three page &#8220;howto&#8221; on using WordPress and tried to think like a user.  How do you write user documentation?  For me it works like this:</p>
<ul>
<li><span style="line-height: 13px;">Basic info section at the top &#8211; URLs, credentials, glossary</span></li>
<li>Key concepts &#8211; in this case, what&#8217;s the difference between a page and a post, etc.</li>
<li>Procedures &#8211; Add a  Page, which includes everything from start to finish (including placing it in a menu), Delete a Post, etc.</li>
</ul>
<p>My friend is not a computer person and Microsoft Word is about as far as she goes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been looking at various <a title="Tutorial Videos (DemoWolf, etc.)" href="http://www.startupsaga.com/2012/tutorial-videos-demowolf-etc">tutorial</a> systems for users, and ultimately I think I&#8217;ll utilize some prepackaged ones while creating my own post-go-live.</p>
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		<title>Web-Hosted Project Management Apps</title>
		<link>http://www.startupsaga.com/2013/web-hosted-project-management-apps</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>raindog308</dc:creator>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starting a company gets real complicated real fast.</p>
<p>There is so much to do &#8211; so many odds and ends and technical details.  And that&#8217;s before you start dealing with customers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been looking for a web-based project management app.  I could use Excel or a Wiki but I&#8217;d like something a little more elegant.</p>
<p>Here are my notes based on recent explorations:</p>
<h3>Currently Considering</h3>
<p><strong>ToodleDo</strong>: I use this app constantly &#8211; perhaps 30 times a day I&#8217;m in and out of it. Absolutely love it and use it on my phone, too. My whole life is in TD. It does subtasks, priorities, etc. but I&#8217;m not sure how well it would work for collaboration. Also, there&#8217;s no way to hive off this project from the rest of my life. You&#8217;re limited to Folders-&gt;Tasks-&gt;Subtasks, and I find the subtasking implementation to be suboptimal, so I&#8217;d have to setup a bunch of folders that would be intermingled with all my other stuff (or setup a separate account I suppose, but that would probably break the phone integration).</p>
<p><strong>collabtve</strong>: Very nice, but I wish I could reorg tasks in the interface. If you use task lists as the &#8220;main task&#8221; then you can subtask I suppose. Nice interface, easy to setup. It may be easy to reorg/reorder tasks &#8211; the rest of the GUI is so nice I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s possible but I haven&#8217;t read the docs yet.</p>
<p><strong>phpprojekt</strong>: The .zip also took like a half-hour to unzip&#8230;seriously, 16,000+ files? The docs say to run &#8220;php composer.phar install&#8221; but apparently you don&#8217;t need to do that&#8230;well, the docs aren&#8217;t great. However I kind of like it, although running on a shared host it&#8217;s very slow to add (though clicking around seems OK). Easy to add any level of subtask, though reorganizing means a form/submit.</p>
<h3>Passed On These</h3>
<p><strong>basecamp</strong>: hosted and expensive</p>
<p><strong>TaskFreak</strong>: I&#8217;d forgotten about this oldie/goodie. Looks like it hasn&#8217;t changed. Not sure if it can do subtasks.</p>
<p><strong>BugGenie</strong>: looks nice, but more issue/bug-oriented. BTW, installing in the root of a domain should not require going in and editing .php files &#8211; it should just be part of the install.</p>
<p><strong>dotProject</strong>: demo is offline, no longer maintained?</p>
<p><strong>ProjectHQ</strong>: heck, their whole site is offline</p>
<p><strong>Excel</strong> or <strong>Google Docs</strong>: little more than a glorified notepad in the sky, makes it hard to flag urgent stuff.</p>
<p><strong>Project.net</strong>: requires java + oracle. I could actually do that in a VPS but sheesh, I&#8217;m planning a project not coordinating Operation Overlord.</p>
<p><strong>ProjectPier</strong>: I used this at one time and recall it being pretty primitive GUI-wise, and it hasn&#8217;t been maintained since 2007</p>
<p><strong>Redmine</strong>: I know many use this, but I am not a Ruby guy and I&#8217;m not sure how much work it is to get going.</p>
<p><strong>Tree.io</strong>: great demo, but no longer maintained?</p>
<p><strong>Trac</strong>: really more bug/issue oriented</p>
<p><strong>Trello</strong>: I didn&#8217;t get the appeal, though it looks nice for simple things. I have one big task that has maybe 75 small things &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure how well that would organize.</p>
<h3>Still to look at:</h3>
<p><strong>asana</strong>: hosted &#8211; my only worry there is that the company suddenly deadpools.</p>
<p><strong>producteev</strong>: again, my only worry</p>
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